i want to know from you guys, do you bitch when you go to a party and have to pay at the door?
Do you give the door person a hard time when you have to pay $20 to get in?
Do you wine so much that the cashier needs to call a waaaaamulance?
Do you try to barter with them like hey I have 10 of my friends here, can we all get in for $5?
Do you try to say that you are on guest list of joe somebody and make the person go through the list of every person and your name is not there?
are you a high maintanance party goer?
I really do want to know what you guys think and have to say because usually at every party, about 45% of people try this and it gets so old its not even funny.
G
Do you give the door person a hard time when you have to pay $20 to get in?
Do you wine so much that the cashier needs to call a waaaaamulance?
Do you try to barter with them like hey I have 10 of my friends here, can we all get in for $5?
Do you try to say that you are on guest list of joe somebody and make the person go through the list of every person and your name is not there?
are you a high maintanance party goer?
I really do want to know what you guys think and have to say because usually at every party, about 45% of people try this and it gets so old its not even funny.
G
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Re: do you bitch?
Thu, November 15, 2007 - 12:25 PMI never pull this kind of crap… but then again I am not financially strapped. On that note I will add that ever since I had a problem with my knees I have not gone out much… If I can’t really dance then going out is not much fun… I’m looking forward to hitting the dance floor at an OPEL party soon.
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Re: do you bitch?
Thu, November 15, 2007 - 3:35 PMgod i hate that...my party is only $5 freaking dollars and people still try to weasel in for free....that's not even the cost of one drink!
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The List
Thu, November 15, 2007 - 4:47 PMWhen NewsBreakz was doing parties (lo those many years ago...) we were trying to come up with smart ass ways to promote it. So, for this one we started e-mailing all of our friends saying "hey, we want you to come to the show so we're gonna put you on the super secret, insiders only $5 list." inevitably they'd write back asking if their friends can get on the list too. "of course they can..."
in reality, it was only a $5 party. But the hook worked. the headz showed up in mad numbers. ha ha! that was NewsBreakz. Always pranking the audience.
So, check it! the last live music concert I went to was Tool @ the shoreline. And I think I paid $45 a ticket and that was years ago. Werent tickets to The Police $100? and dont even get me started about that last Hannah Montana show...
There is value in entertainment. and in the end, those records don't buy themselves (or large scale sound system theme camps for that matter...) support your local disc jockey. plunk down the $5 or $10 @ the door. Tip the bartenders; they're working hard for you. if you're on a budget, bring a flask with you. fuck its what I do...
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If you *really* need to get on The List, put a call into your DJ friend at least by thursday lunch time. Ringing them up 15 mins before they go on just ain't gonna make magic happen at the door. (esp, if you haven't called them in months...) All its gonna do is make them go "why are they calling me *now*?" and you standing around outside with your phone glued to your as you pace back and forth trying to not look an asshole cuz you just tried to flex on the door girl. although if make that call on wednesday evening, you're more then likely to get on The List. Plus one maybe.
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Once you're on The List you have to show up. It's really bad form to ask, and get on, but not show up. IF you do flake out, it would be advisable to refrain from asking again.
ahhhh... gosh I feel much better. thanks for that.
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Re: The List
Thu, November 15, 2007 - 5:48 PMI usually really on my looks and amazing sex appeal!
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The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Fri, November 23, 2007 - 8:27 PMOK, so how embarrassing is it when you've followed "the list" protocol as outlined by EGO, INC just because you're that kind of person, not because you read his rant.... And you get to the door at 3:05, knowing your friend who put you on the list is on at 3:15... only to find that the venue has closed the list at 3:00... you plead, "I'm on the list" and the door person doesn't care!! So since you've had a few drinks you ring the friend, who you know has got to be busy setting up his stuff, and ask him to come to the door and get you. Quite embarrassing, but your wonderful friend actually answered his phone, and actually came to the door to get you. Now that is a friend who MOVES THE CHAINS!! -
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Sat, November 24, 2007 - 11:28 PMI think you are cheep… you should suck it up and pay the door charge! -
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Sun, November 25, 2007 - 9:31 PMWow, that's a little harsh., sorry you feel that way. And you spelled cheap, cheep! Whatever.
The point was that even the people who volunteer, and work the door at OPEL parties, end up being 'high maintenance' without trying to. But that it's really sweet to have your friend get you in.
I've been volunteering at working the door when some seriously 'high maintenance' people came through. Sometimes they really were supposed to be on the list and we just needed to confirm that with the people that put them on. Other times they were the jerks that Gina was complaining about.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 10:09 AMPerhaps that was a little harsh… But then calling your friend 10 minutes before they are about to go on so that you can save $10… $15… at most $25 strikes me as a little cheep cheep cheep. Like a little self-absorbed bird flying from venue to venue night after night.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 10:40 AMJill you will always have unlimited credit with me.
I do now--and always will--move the chains for you.
even after 3am.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Mon, November 26, 2007 - 11:30 PMThanks Babe,
I thought peeps would find the story amusing. I didn't think I was going to be attacked by someone I don't even know.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 10:22 AMEXACTLY!
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Tue, November 27, 2007 - 10:29 AMas a party-goer, i'm ALWAYS grateful for guestlist hook-up, but never feel entitled to it. conversely, i ALWAYS appreciate support from people when i'm on the other side of the coin (as a promoter/host).
i learned that, as a promoter, you just need to hire (or get help from) true tigers at the door. get someone who knows NO ONE and you (promoter) STAY AWAY from the door. this reduces the headache of having to say no or "explain" to people what it cost to put on a party and how you would love to accomodate them but you got bills to to pay, etc. etc.
but to all the promoters/hosts out there who have been gracious to me at the door, my humble thanks (always!).
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Tue, November 27, 2007 - 10:46 AMCeCe I love you in so many ways... -
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Fri, November 30, 2007 - 8:02 PMReally cool thread, I deal with this a lot.
I think we have a pretty good tradition of courtesy in SF for people that work in the dance music industry to make all of this happen. That said, some people get used to a certain level of respect and I think they just get their feelings hurt when they are not accommodated.
To me there is a big difference between someone helping make the scene happen asking for a comp vs. someone who happens to have met you out (when you go out 4 nights a week you meet thousands of people)
I can't really understand the mentality of people who want to show up and just take (never pay cover, get people to give them drink tickets or buy them drinks, etc.) Perhaps they don't recognize that a lot of the people who they see being taken care of that way are running record labels, throwing large scale events, owning venues, or traveling the world bringing our music to other places.
Putting on events requires a ton of effort and work. If the promoter does their job right it doesn't look like that at all. An exceptionally well executed party should almost look easy for the party-goer.
I really respect the ethos of everybody contributing to an event in their own way. Many people help out with promoting, decorating, staffing, cleaning up, and otherwise creating the structural matrix of events. Others show up, pay their cover, and dance the night away.
I believe it is the sum of all of the various ways that people contribute which can create that uplifting and beautiful vibe in a party (you know what I'm talking about, when the minute you walk in you feel like you are high even though you haven't ingested any inebriates.)
Speaking of which I really shouldn't be here typing, I've got a loft party to host in 3 hours.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Sat, December 1, 2007 - 4:15 AMNOW THAT IS COOOOL
I wish I could get out more... but my two dogs take a lot of special attention. I guess u could say they are high maintenance. Anyway… when I do go out I dance like a freak and when I am offered a comp, I do not take it. I feel like the art should get as much cash as is available. That is why when I hear of some person bothering artists I am such a virtual dick. Anyway… I wish I could get out more… but in this incarnation that is not the case.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Wed, December 5, 2007 - 12:36 PM
this is the great irony. If you have time to go out a party a whole lot several times a week, you are most likely not bringing down those fat paychecks.
If you do have that high-paying job, you probably don't go out that much.
If you are independently wealthy and have all the time to party, then pay up fool!
I guess if you don't make a lot of money and want to party a lot, you have to get involved. I did that during my partying peak. It was a lot of fun being involved with the production of parties. That when I really met a ton of cool SF party people.
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Re: The List protocol and how is goes South sometimes...
Wed, December 26, 2007 - 2:22 PM"DO YOU KNOW WHO I AM?"
i've never actually had to say those words..
you get what you give.
but beware of those dj's and smarmy promoters who always look for a little more in return for something they didnt have to pay for! you may think your so special, but your just a new victim.
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